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Post by Gwenneth on Oct 12, 2004 23:59:08 GMT -5
MUST have threads in this section...why...I don't really know. I SHOULD be in bed!!!
Here is an odd question...in the AU universe, much can happen...you can kill canon characters, insert your own main characters, change the way a character acts, even make them disabled in any way shape or form...
What is your opinion on AU stories? Do you read them? Have you ever came across one that you loved? That went WAY too far?
What do you think of self-insertion stories or mary-sues? Do you give them a chance?
I'm just wondering. I have read all of the above, mary-sues, self-insertion...I feel it important to give ALL writers a chance. I try anything once...
What are your opinions of AU categories...whether it be character death, mary-sue, self-insertion...heck...even *gulp* slash. (Keep any responses to my slash question...uhm...PG...K?)
Let's see what everyone here thinks.
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Post by Karri on Oct 13, 2004 0:49:41 GMT -5
Have you ever came across one that you loved? Well, I adore the Anomen tales by ElfEye, which are about as non-canon AU as it can get. Yes.  My opinion of AU is extremely varied. When well-rearched and well-thought out, it can be splendid. It seems like, though, that AU is often simply used as an excuse a writer who just could not be bothered with that frivolous, unimportant thing known as Middle-earth. I find that bothersome and generally don’t read them. I will read movie-canon and a selective amount of MC-canon (it doesn’t even have to be labeled AU), but no attempt at all to set the story in the realm of Middle-earth and use the information provided in the movies and/or books, makes me wonder why the writer it bothering to even call it LOTR fanfic, and I don’t tend to read them. (Crossovers are an exception, but they have to be extremely well done to bother with.) AU is also often used as a means of killing someone that survives the book (ie. Legolas). I have read a few really good AU character death stories, but overall, I am a big happy-ending sort of girl, so I don’t care that much for AU character death. I do not read obvious self-insertion, 10th walker or mary-sue stories. I also tend to avoid story that make the completion of the quest inplausible (ie. having Legolas blind from birth or breaking both his legs) but carries on with the quest as though it could still be carried out, peice-of cake. If the events of the book are going to be rewritten AU, appropriate repercussions have to follow the AU whatever has been changed to make it AU. Your "What If?" series does a good job of including reasonable repercussions.  Reading fanfic is my primary form of entertainment, so I read what will entertain me. That said, I have read at least one of each of the above examples at some point, for despite all other factors, a good enough writer with a good enough plot will keep me reading regardless (ie. Elfeye). LOL! I have even read an MPREG that I enjoyed! Karri |
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Post by Gwenneth on Oct 13, 2004 7:13:09 GMT -5
Hey, now THAT is something I can't say I've managed to do! I am always open to stories, but I have yet to see a MPREG that I thought was done well. Of course, it might be because I don't really like to see Aragorn get PREgnant. (I'm a Leggy hurting fan)
LOL, thanks so much, Karri! Glad to see that my What-If's are not too AU for you to read. I was trying desperately to make them plausible. After all, the whole point is to make it so that they fit into the movieverse. WITHOUT disrupting the flow of things TOO much!
I have to say I only read self-insertions and mary-sues if they are somewhat well written OR if I am encouraging an author. I don't really like them, but I will encourage an author who is enjoying them to continue with the writing. BUT it HAS to be labeled AU. I mean, if you marry Legolas off or something...that's not canon. (I don't think...I don't see him as marrying...but who the heck knows.)
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Post by Joee on Oct 13, 2004 22:02:40 GMT -5
I tend to treat AU's like any other story, if I like the summary I will read it except for self-insertions and mary-sues. I do think that they can go too far when the writer could basically just change the names of the character and pass it off as original fiction, but many of them make for good stories. I don't mind slash stories. When I ran out of friendship ones to read I began to read slash. It was a bit weird to get into a first but they're just like any other, you have the good and the bad. And I too have read a MPREG that I enjoyed...although after reading the first 29 stories in the series I wasn't about to stop with one left just because it was an MPREG. |
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Post by Mornflower on Dec 27, 2004 13:28:10 GMT -5
AU stories are fine with me! Though I don't like MPreg much...it is just a little too out there for me... Mary-sues and self insurtions are fine! I actually placed myself in one of my stories...some people said it ruined the story...  I didn't care much though... Some of the stoies I have read are a little too out there, but oh well! They were still well written.  I don't like AU's that make the ending of the War of the Ring really...what's the word...impossible...Like if someone makes Leggie or Aragorn crippled and then go saying that um....Aragorn ends up fighting Sauron and kicking his butt...it just doesn't add up correctly in my head... Every author has the right to write anything they want. Whether I in particular enjoy reading it or not is not what matters. What matters is that someone else does and the author has fun writing it!  |
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Post by Carol on Dec 28, 2004 0:56:38 GMT -5
What is your opinion on AU stories?
Do you read them?
I actually like AU stories. I find them refreshing and quite entertaining if done well. When you consider you can only read a cannon version so many times, it's good to have something diffferent to read.
I also write AU in a sense that I do Little Legolas and Estel stories. I enjoy playing around with the ideas of them being children, and how they might have behaved
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What do you think of self-insertion stories or mary-sues? Do you give them a chance?
I have read a few self-insertion stories that were well done and really enjoyed them.
I do not however read Mary-Sue stories. Now don't flame or yell at me but I find it hard to read a story where someone from today's world suddenly falls out of the sky and becomes a part of Middle Earth lol.
For me that's a little to AU.
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What are your opinions of AU categories...whether it be character death, mary-sue, self-insertion...heck...even *gulp* slash. (Keep any responses to my slash question...uhm...PG...K?)
I don't read MPEG stories, I'm not sure but they just aren't my cup of tea. I did read one once where Legolas was pregnant with Aragorn's child. It was quite funny, but once again not my cup of tea.
I have however read a few slash stories that were quite well done. I found it a little hard to try and picture my favorite characters in that way, but a friend of mine wrote and recommended them and I figured why the heck not give it a shot.
I have nothing against slash in anyway and I guess if the story is written well enough I will read just about anything lol.
I am not a huge fan of character death stories. Near death and brought back are a different story, but I'm a happily ever after kind of girl.
I do however realize that in stories concerning grief it is necessary to have someone die, I will read them.
I am however not a fan of Legolas death sroties. Call it favorite character syndrome or whatever he is one character I want to see live on forever. lol
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Post by Mornflower on Dec 28, 2004 1:23:12 GMT -5
Now don't flame or yell at me but I find it hard to read a story where someone from today's world suddenly falls out of the sky and becomes a part of Middle Earth lol. Absolutly, Totally agree! I just can't make my small insignificant brain comprehend how someone from a different world could fall into ours...nope...not working... I am however not a fan of Legolas death sroties. Call it favorite character syndrome or whatever he is one character I want to see live on forever. lol Once again. I agree...Don't kill my poor Leggy...but I have no problem with someone killing Aragorn once the human has grown old...hmm...odd...maybe its the whole "Mortals are doomed to die" thing getting to me there....*grumbles* stupid mortality... |
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Post by Joee on Dec 29, 2004 22:49:14 GMT -5
Once again. I agree...Don't kill my poor Leggy...but I have no problem with someone killing Aragorn once the human has grown old...hmm...odd...maybe its the whole "Mortals are doomed to die" thing getting to me there....*grumbles* stupid mortality... Aww, see I hate all character death's. I know it can really make for a good story but it's so sad when any one of them dies (well in regards to my favourite characters anyway). I've just grown too attached to them. |
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Post by Mornflower on Jan 4, 2005 16:23:20 GMT -5
Yes...it is sad when the characters die  But I don't really feel as bad when the author will kill Aragorn because of old age...It is still sad I agree...but I guess it doesn't effect me as much... |
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Post by Shadowfax on Feb 3, 2005 21:27:53 GMT -5
Hey guys! Hey kate! I think it sad when an author kills any of the characters (expecially aragorn or legolas) I read any kind of stories, I dont like AU as much, but I guess it depends on how much the universe is changed or added. It just kind of depends. -Amanda |
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Post by Gwenneth on Feb 3, 2005 22:54:59 GMT -5
HEY Amanda! Welcome to the message board! I just got a ff.net alert for Sword and Arrow and found...it seems...that you won't be writing anymore of it.
Opting to go with your other story? The one you are writing with Shelby? I know I haven't gotten around to talking to you much...I HAVE not forgotten you!!!
I'll see if I can send you an e-mail tonight.
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Post by Shadowfax on Feb 3, 2005 23:49:08 GMT -5
Hey kate,
no I will be finishing it, Im just moving it to the side for right now. Dont worry I will. I just wrote a note down so that ppl know why Im not finishing at the moment... and yes we are working on our other one. Thank you so much and I will try to get an emai back to you tonight!
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Post by Mornflower on Feb 4, 2005 9:59:36 GMT -5
Hey Amanda! seem like you got yourself regestered! welcome...wow...now I feel like singing the 'welcome welcome' song from "The Grinch" the animated version...scary...lol...talk to you later!
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Post by Shadowfax on Feb 4, 2005 18:56:42 GMT -5
yes! I finally got it! This site is neat, I have never been here before! thank you! Now all shelby needs to do is register Have any of you guys ran across any good new stories? I would like to know! I need somthing to read! Namaire |
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Post by Saerwen Eregdos on Jul 8, 2005 5:15:20 GMT -5
YES, this is a VERY LATE POST, but the adorable little alfling has just figured out how you introduce yourself on a message board, so don't rain on her parade.
Sooo. . .hewwo guys, this is Mari, otherwise known as Saerwen, how ARE YOU ALL?! *cackles*
MPREG? Don't like it. Probably never will, it's just not the adorable little elfling's cup of tea.
AU is fine with the cute little elfling. She reads it just as often as she does anything else.
The Anomen tales are very much enjoyed by the cute little elfling. . .and YES, the cute little elfling will always be referring to herself in the third person. She thinks it very amusing. So there. *cute little elfling pout*
Can't stand Mary Sues, but the cute little elfling can't say she hasn't written a self insertion. However, said self insertion was (is?) a comedy, in which the cute little elfling is so devoid of social skills and intellect that it's a wonder she manages to do anything right.
"This might have worked, except for the fact that she tripped over her shoelace an instant later. It was at this moment that she discovered something rather odd: one does not have to be a Mary Sue to go flying. Unfortunately, she had exactly three quarters of a second to contemplate this before she landed headfirst in the sewage ditch. This put an end to all musing."
-Saerwen
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