Timeline question..

[Gwenneth]

I may have asked this somewhere before, I do not recall. But as it is a canon-related question, I figured I would ask it here.

Can anyone tell me HOW long Aragorn and LEgolas MIGht have had time to interact and build a friendship...when Aragorn was NOT traveling as Thorongil, and it would not conflict with anything ELSE in Tolkien canon. Namely, what age frame for Aragorn do I have to play with if I want it to be CANON...a Legolas Aragorn friendship story. DOes ARagorn have to be...an adult...a child...what?

I KNOW there is someone on this group who can tell me the answer, I have faith in you guys. AND yes, I give the lovers of delving into books for answers something to do!!!

[Karri]

Estel dwells in Rivendell officially until the age of 20 (during his late teens, he rides with the twins and the rangers to hunt orc), during which time they could have seen a good deal of each other. Then in 2951 Aragorn goes into the Wild, where he could still have maintained a friendship with Legolas -- it's not canon, but it's also not disputed by canon.

In 2957, Aragorn heads south to Rohan and Gondor. It is pretty unlikely that he and Legolas would have had any contact during this time, as Legolas makes it pretty clear in TT that he has never traveled as far south as Lorien, let alone beyond to Fangorn, Rohan and Gondor.

Aragorn enters Lorien in 2980. Legolas would not have met him there, but it means he is moving north again, so he could connect with Legolas after leaving Lorien.

In 3009, Aragorn and Gandalf go hunting for Gollum. This hunt lasts 8 years, and part of it takes place in Mirkwood, so Legolas could have accompanied them for part of this time, but he would not have accompanied them beyond Mirkwood.

Then in 3017, Aragorn brings Gollum to King's Thranduil's palace, and in June of the following year, Thranduil's people are attacked and Gollum escapes. The elves of Mirkwood spend many months hunting him, and then Legolas is sent to Rivendell to break the news to Elrond at the council in October.

During this time Aragorn is guarding the Shire. Most people place Legolas in Mirkwood, but that is not specified in canon. Still, it would be awkward to have Thranduil call Legolas home to help search, without Aragorn getting wind of what has happened. Nor does it seem likely that Thranduil would call him son home, only to have Legolas promptly turn around and go back across the mountains to Rivendell, so though Legolas whereabout for this year are not accounted for until the Council, it is extremely unlikely Aragorn and he would have seen each other after Aragorn dropped off Gollum.

[Gwenneth]

YAY! Thanks AGAIN Karri! You are just a wealth of knowledge waiting to be tapped! I'm so glad you are willing to share your knowledge!

I think that gives me a couple of places to delve into a possible friendship adventure fic. I can't believe they DIDN'T know each other prior to the Council of Elrond, only because I couldn't see Legolas so vehemently "defending" Aragorn if they were not close friends.

Maybe that's just ME because I WANT them to be close friends! I love to play with that notion. Are you very knowledgable on Elrond and his personality too?! Cuse you could be quite helpful with my next What-If story if you were!!!

*glances at post tally*

Getting there! BUT I need to go to BED now!

[LKK]

Very impressive, Karri! That is the most concise accounting of the Legolas / Aragorn possible meetings I've ever seen. I'm going to save it off to my PC for possible future reference.

Gwenneth, you mentioned that you couldn't see Legolas defending Aragorn so vehemently if they didn't know each other prior to the council. I assume you're working in movie-verse, yes? As dramatic as the moment was in the movie, it never happened in the book.

In the book, Legolas and Aragorn don't have any positive personal interactions until after Lothlorien, if I recall. That's one of the big reasons I don't think they were friends prior to the Quest, even though I write my fanfic as if I do believe.

[Karri]

I go back and forth on the Aragorn-Legolas prior friendship issue. Aragorn spends a number of years, here and there, in Mirkwood, so I would find it strange if they had never met, but meeting and being friends are two entirely different things.

I do agree that it is doubtful that they would have been as close of friends as most fanfic makes them (though it is fun to write, all the same.) Legolas has been alive for a minimum of several centuries and possibly several millenium, so I have to think he has a few good friends in Mirkwood -- so even if I were inclined to believe in the notion of best friends, I would expect that best friend to be a fellow wood-elf. Also, the journey between Mirkwood and Rivendell was long and, though safer after the Battle of Five Armies, still arduous, so I can't see either party making it on a regular basis simply to catch up with the guys. Nor do I see Thranduil being tickled pink by the prospect of his son continually absenting himself from the realm to play with in Rivendell.

But then I go back to Aragorn's various trips to Mirkwood and think they must have had a formal acquaintance of some kind, in the least.

LOL! Oi! I'll give myself a headache arguing myself in circles if I keep on, so suffice to say I think a close friendship between Aragorn and Legolas is fanon, and a fun fanon to play with at that.

[Gwenneth]

I agree that the close relationship between Aragorn and Legolas was/is fanon. Looking at what Karri said about the journey being long and dangerous, I can't imagine that it would be easy to have a best friend scenario between the two. BUT...I will continue to have fun with that fanon anyway!!! Seems many like it! ;D

LKK, yes I am refering to the defense of Aragorn portrayed in the movie. BUT...since I flipflop and write both movieverse and ATTEMPTED bookverse...I guess sometimes I forget to differentiate! LOL...I'll try not to do that again!

It is so fun to make Aragorn and Legolas close friends and just "conveniently" ignore the overwhelming reasons why they really couldn't!

I mean, seeing as we know little of Legolas...he COULD be the only son of Thranduil, though I have conflicting ideas about that...OH how bout another thread for this one....hehe...hang on!!!

[office 2010]

At the moment of Microsoft Office 2010 the activation process Microsoft Office 2007, the people who are Office 2010 going too notified Office 2007 of the date outlook 2010 when the trial period is going to expire. You don't download microsoft office 2010 have to download information office 2010 home from Groove workspaces office 2010 professional or OneNote notebooks before you ms office 2010 go offline, or put microsoft word on changes when you office 2010 microsoft reconnect. All team members' offline work is Microsoft Office synchronized as quickly as an Internet Microsoft outlook 2010 connection is gained ms office 2007. There is a list of URLs on the top of the page that download office 2010 you probably want to begin your search. Those domains micro office 2010 are the mostly office professional 2010 independent office 2007 key; we have Microsoft Office 2010 key no ways to do on them. Microsoft Office goods microsoft office 2007 home, with not using the need Microsoft outlook to uninstall and reinstall the Microsoft Office 2007 one more time Office 2010 key, which are trial and full goods purchased are of same version and Office 2010 free language. The time MS office 2010 key before trial period Microsoft Office 2010 free expires; the Activation outlook 2010 key Wizard is going to begin display Office 2010 download expiration MS office 2010 download reminder messages Microsoft Office 2010 download each time.