Home of the Wood-Elves

[Gwenneth]

Okay...it has been a REALLY long time since I read the books. I have been told that the palace of Mirkwood was underground...kind of in caves.

Is that true? Can anyone describe the wood-elves palace better then that? Please? I want to write a story set there!!

[Karri]

Why, yes, yes I can. *woo! someone gave Karri an excuse to delve into The Hobbit*

"In a great cave some miles within the edge of Mirwood on its eastern side there lived at this time their greated king. Before his huge doors of stone a river ran out of the heights of the forest and flowed on and out into the marshes at the feet of the high wooded lands. This great cave, from which countless others opened out of every side, wound far underground and had many passages and wide halls; but it was lighter and more wholesome than any goblin-dwelling, and neither so deep nor so dangerous. In fact, the subjects of the king mostly lived and hunted in the open woods, and had houses or huts on the ground and in the branches. The beeches were their favorite tree. The King's cave was his palace, and the strong place of his treasure, and the fortress of his people against their enemies."

"Suddenly the torches stopped, and the hobbit had just time to catch them up before they began to cross the bridge. This was the bridge that led across the water to the king's doors. The water flowed dark and swift and strong beneath; and at the far end were gates before the mouth of a huge cabe that ran right into the side of a steep slope covered with trees. There the great beeches came right down to the bank, till their feet were in the stream.

Across the bridge the elves thrust their prisoners, but Bilbo hesitated in the rear. He did not at all like the look of the cavern-mouth, and he only made up his mind not to desert his friend just in time to scuttle over with the last elves, before the great gates of the king closed behind him.

Inside the passages were lit with red torch-light, and the elf-guards sang as they marches along the twisting, crossing, and echoing paths. These were not like those of the goblin-cities; they were smaller, less deep underground, and filled with a cleaner air. In a great hall with pillars hewn out of the living stone sat the Elvenking on a chair of carven wood. On his head was a crown of berries and red leaves, for the autumn had come again. In the spring he wore a crown of woodland flowers. In his hand he held a carven staff of oak."

"One day, nosing and wandering about, Bilbo discovered a very interesting thing: the great gates were not the only entrance to the caves. A stream flowed under part of the lowest regions of the palace, and joined the Forest River some way further to the east, beyond the steep slope out of which the main mouth opened. Where this underground watercourse came forth from teh hillside there was a water-gate. There the rocky roof came down close to the surface of the stream, and from it a portcullis could be dropped right to the bed of the river to prevent anyone coming in or out that way. But the portcullis was often open, for a good deal of traffic went in and out by the water-way. If anyone had come in that way, he would have found himself in a dark rough tunnel leading into the heart of the hill; but at one point where it passed under the caves the roof had been cut away and covered with great oaken trapdoors. These opened upwards into the king's cellars. There stood barrels, and barrels, and berrls; for the Wood'elves, and especially their king, were very gond of wine, though no vines grew in those parts."

Thorin was imprisoned "in one of the inmost caves with strong wooden doors."

[Gwenneth]

THANKS Karri! That is not QUITE how I pictured it, but that helps immensely. As does your suggestions on getting good LotR information! Thanks for that. As you can see, I am attempting to get as much conversation done as I can when I AM off of work!!!

HEHE...I'm bound and determined to make Novice Warrior!!! If you can think of any interesting questions that I might be able to go off on, feel free to ask them...PRETTY PLEASE!?

[Karri]

The five word game is a quick, easy way to move up quickly in rank.

[Gwenneth]

LOL...I have begun to partake in the five-word game a bit more in earnest now. I think it is mighty fun and it will be really COOL to see what kind of story we all can come up with that way! Hehe...when it's finished, are we going to post it in it's entirety somewhere? Here? Elsewhere? That'd be cool!

[LKK]

So Karri, do you have those sections of The Hobbit memorized? Can you type them in your sleep?

[Gwenneth]

One more thing about the wood-elves home. Is a gate opened by magic...only controlled by the royal family...canon or fanon? And if it is canon, could someone show me WHERE?

[Karri]

LKK said:

So Karri, do you have those sections of The Hobbit memorized? Can you type them in your sleep?

LOL! Almost. I always get a word or two wrong, but give me a few more years, and I'll have it down pat.

[Karri]

Gwenneth said:

One more thing about the wood-elves home. Is a gate opened by magic...only controlled by the royal family...canon or fanon? And if it is canon, could someone show me WHERE?

The Hobbit says only that the doors open and close by magic and that they are Thranduil's doors, but who can open and close them is not specified. It would appear that Thranduil does not have to be physically present, because he is not with the party that marches the dwarves across the bridge, but Legolas could have been present and not specified, or Thranduil could be able to control them from afar.

I think most likely, it is probably either some sort of word magic, such as works the Gates of Moria, or the doors have been enchanted by Thranduil to respond to the command of any wood-elf. If it is word magic, Thranduil likely sets the password that is then shared his subjects, or (more likely) known by the gate guards and captains. I think it is unlikely that members of the Royal family have to be the ones to open and close the gate, as that would be mighty inconvenient if (assuming the Queen has departed or died) the palace were assaulted and the king and prince joined in the defense and (Valar forbid) were both killed.

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